Onan 5500 Marquis install 2009 36Max1

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    ramseyjackramseyjack
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      Long story to get the Onan Marquis Gold 5500 I purchased used with 1500hrs on it to re-install in the 2009 36Max1 that the PO had removed. Really did not look at the bottom of the genset much except to hook up a fuel line and ground to test on the bench before install. Worked OK, but real rough but I figured that was from sitting for 14 months before I even pulled it out to install.

      Rebuilt the carb for good measure and ran perfect for a few minutes at a time. Cutouts already in the pan of the front storage area, probably from factory install, and carefully slid it into the area and bolted it in.

      Hooked up the ground, positive and harness to the bathroom start switch and she started right up. Loaded with both air conditioners and ran fine. Shut off the AC’s and it stopped dead. Ran the flashing light test, error 14, over frequency. Checked and running at idle of 62hz tried the same test again and stopped dead again. Took a closer look at the main jet adjustment and I think it might be bent. Adjusted mixture and governor but not much change, thought carefully , checked with Cummins and new Carb A062T422 $576.86. Hmm pretty simple carb seems a little overpriced. Cheapest the factory box carb I can find is $400, and then all the $45-55 ones on Amazon. Figure the $400 ones are the re-boxed $45 units so gambled on one Amazon for $55 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X1PV5G9?psc=1&ref=product_details) and installed it. Purrs like a kitten and moved the governor back to original settings and tested about 3 times over a few hours, setting the idle to 60.5hz and full load around 62hz. Takes some ‘fiddling around” but you get the idea how it works around the 10th time. (probably around the 5th)

      Will monitor and see how it stands up.

      Built some shelves for the batteries and storage over the onan, out of ¾ in plywood and 2×3’s.  Added individual shutoff to each battery

      Went to adjust the valves and no hole to stick a socket through to turn over the engine. WHAT. Measured the place the hole is supposed to be and drilled a test hole for the 3in access and aluminum cover, so have to pull the 5500 again. Trying to find the right fuel filter, exhaust downtube and exhaust extension pipe, but the stars are not lining up. Wrong downtube (too large OD to fit the ID of the extension, and I went directly to Cummins from an “expert” at the counter. Sigh…Back to making parts.. Or re-order.

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        Never ends…

        JohnD222
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          Onan 5500 continuing saga.

          I have done too many projects in between so lost track.

          Finally got enough semi original pipes for the exhaust got it working but the bend in the exhaust that fit the proper downtube (I ordered a lot of different ones) was 5in too long going down (it would have hit something eventually) and 4in too short to properly get out from under the coach..sigh..

          Proper exhaust downpipe 1/1/2in and Cummins pipe from the parts manual was 1 ¼. Bought “the other one” listed and it was the right size and could use 1 ½ size EMT to fit over the outside of the cummings 1 ½ … yeah confusing but 4 trips the muffler guy and pipe supply, and we have legal and not going to break or kill us with CO from the gas exhaust.

          All the while testing, the combination of the new carb worked well and ran properly… until… over 100-degree weather. The genset dies within about 45 minutes to an hour of running if running both ACs. There were no more issues with the governor; now it just plain dies, error code 36.

          Cool down ½ hour and it restarts but repeats within 15-30 min

          Here is the error code sequence, for I could not find it documented anywhere. Just in videos

          Onan Error Code reading

          Stop or Prime button 3 times in 5 seconds.
          Series of blinks (3)
          Press prime button one more time
          Then get a series of blinks
          First series of blinks, then pause, then second series of blinks
          Reset and erase code, press the prime button 2 times
          Ie:  blink 3 times, pause and blink 6 times, error code 36

          Had already ordered a “replacement” Carbole pump (Ebay) with 4075 good reviews rather than purchasing a Cummins $244 fuel pump. Amazon will not ship “replacement” auto items to where I live in California.

          The “perfect” replacement was less than perfect, but changed the oil and replaced the broken heat spacer between the carb and engine. Had ordered the new original Cummins gaskets for the carb replacement. But they had not arrived when I replaced the carb.

          Needless to say, the fuel pump did not fit, and I had to hacksaw off part of the mounting tabs, but I got it installed. It fired right up and really sounded good, but the same issue, only shorter now, would not start until it cooled off for at least an hour. I ran it with the doors closed, Both AC’s on, outside temp 107.

          I went into the Victron because I had temp sensors taped to the Onan, top of the shelf, and the normal one on the Lithium batteries. It gets hot in there.

          I was also not happy with the fit and using a hose clamp between the pump and the carb (it needs the crimp type) to fit properly (I made a wire clamp). I was also concerned I might be boiling the fuel by adding the extra fuel filter, but that was probably not a problem. So I went down to the local NAPA and bought a real $90 FACET pump, fuel lines, and fittings to see how they worked. They works perfectly. Generator put out more KW, ran both AC’s and ran the whole afternoon in 108 temps, with the front bay doors open but I think this is how it is supposed to run.

          The Facet is noisy but I may just find a place to mount it on a pad or wood, to lessen the decibels. I did order a 12V 14” radiator fan for the front bay cutout to exhaust heat buildup.

          I have looked everywhere for the Airtex E11015 Electric Fuel Pump that is the OEM, but nothing comes up. I will make some calls to RV parts places claiming to have “OEM” but somehow I think Cummins has pulled all the gross profit into their coffers. I don’t even mind paying $150 but $250…huh

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            more pics

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              In a week of on and off testing the FACET has kept the gen running perfectly. Temps 115 to a balmy 108 today. Ran the gen non stop for 11hrs and not a hiccup.
              I did order a factory “rebuilt” E11015 off Ebay for $32 and will give it a shot tomorrow.Hopefully NOS stock.

              Got the 14in fan and it would not fit if using the stock “mounting ears” so ordered a 10 in “reversible flow” fan and a 12V 10 amp PWM controller to slow it down.
              You have to change the polarity and flip the fan around, but easy. Tested the PWM and installed it in the vent area of the forward compartment pushing air out of the front generator compartment.
              Blows a LOT of heat out. 11 hrs of running and the little 16 gauge wire is hot. (only 6.6 amp draw)

              The gen temp got to 200, battery temp to 135 and tray temp to 145, which is only 20 degrees higher than not running the gen. Yes 120 degrees F in the front compartment, no gen running.

               

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